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Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:32 pm

Random thing I found on YouTube: Really great piano remix of a song from the game. Really goes to show the soundtrack was kick ass for an ancient MIDI game.

On a sidenote: anyone realize that Nocturnal Illusion really did get a Win98 remake? With voice acting no less. :shock:

Seems to have been a limited print thing. Good luck finding a used copy. Attached images are NSFW.

***EDIT***

This remake was called: 夢幻夜想曲 リニューアル

Used 2 CD's (one for the program, the other for music). JAN Code is 4948201140131. Released in late 1998.

Erogamescape rates it with a metric of 77. Goes to show you that the nostalgia is shared on both sides of the ocean.


***EDIT 2***

Might have located a shop that carries it afterall: Comshop

May review it, if I can order a copy from them. So no one else order it first. :P
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby baxaca » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:54 pm

Nargrakhan wrote:Random thing I found on YouTube: Really great piano remix of a song from the game. Really goes to show the soundtrack was kick ass for an ancient MIDI game.

On a sidenote: anyone realize that Nocturnal Illusion really did get a Win98 remake? With voice acting no less. :shock:

Seems to have been a limited print thing. Good luck finding a used copy.

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I love kick ass midi, gone piano, gone right and there's a lot out there :D

Thanks for sharing Narg 8)
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby SidVanHalen » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:32 pm

Woah!! I didnt knew all that. The piano remix is kick arse.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:49 pm

Oh wow. The studio that owns Nocturnal Illusion recently became active again:

http://www.getchu.com/php/search.phtml? ... and_id=124

I wouldn't have expected that. I wonder if that has anything to do with NI not being available in English anymore...
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue May 19, 2009 9:23 pm

Got the game... doesn't run so hot on Vista though. Slightly okay on XP... but there's some screen distortion. Trying to load a Win98 virtual environment. All characters have voice acting - including Shinichi. The voices seem to fit everyone. From what I've gone through so far: the game has no additional content (i.e. a new girl or more story paths). It's just the regular Nocturnal Illusion upgraded.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nandemonai » Tue May 19, 2009 9:56 pm

What does "slightly OK" mean?
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Lancer-X » Tue May 19, 2009 10:13 pm

Nargrakhan wrote:Oh wow. The studio that owns Nocturnal Illusion recently became active again:

http://www.getchu.com/php/search.phtml? ... and_id=124

I wouldn't have expected that. I wonder if that has anything to do with NI not being available in English anymore...

They've been active for a long time, actually. Remember that their older games, Maple Colors and Ayakashi were not released under the Apricot name, but released under the CROSSNET banner (Apricot definitely worked on them, though).

And I think it has more to do with the fact that CROSSNET no longer exists =P
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue May 19, 2009 11:22 pm

Nandemonai wrote:What does "slightly OK" mean?


No music (but the voice acting works). Text box background sometimes doesn't show, but the words still do, so the ability to read them depends on the colors of what's being shown on the screen. Just realized I haven't tried the 98 compatibility check box... might do so this evening. I'll take a few screen shots and upload them.


Lancer-X wrote:And I think it has more to do with the fact that CROSSNET no longer exists =P


lol... that would do it. :o
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Thu May 21, 2009 4:10 am

Screenshots of the errors I'm running into, when the game is ran on XP or Vista 32-bit (won't work at all on Vista 64-bit).

* First obvious is the text itself. Either the words show up in the middle of the screen, or when it shows up at the bottom it's not black color (and has a "clipping" of the main screen).

* Second is the paper doll... it's not "centered" correctly over the text box and hovers incorrectly.

On a sidenote: as far as the gameplay is concerned, it's EXACTLY like the DOS version. Same order of options to follow... same story pace. HOWEVER the English translation of the game, isn't exact... they seem to have simplified or ignored things. Not ultra major - but interesting. I suppose it's not really censorship, but how it was translated.

Still looking for my Win98 installation disks... so I don't know how it looks in Virtual PC yet.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Thu May 21, 2009 4:39 am

Just for comparison purposes...

Either the artist retraced over everything, or the artwork in the 98 version is what he originally drew, before it was downgraded for the limitations of DOS.

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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Sat May 23, 2009 2:08 am

Most likely my last update on this, unless someone has a question they want me to answer.

Not much luck on improving the WinXP and Vista 32-bit running. The music won't play due to SB16 errors (Sound Blaster drivers). The crazy text thing appears to be avoidable, if you set your screen resolution below 1024 x 768... however it doesn't always work. A bit of a hit or miss issue. Attempting to use the "98 compatibility" option, causes a memory error crash.

Having said all that...

The game runs perfect using Windows 98 SE under Virtual PC with the default hardware installation (no extra drivers needed). However you'll need something like NJSTAR Software for the Japanese fonts to show correctly - indeed to even install it (because the installer uses Japanese). Screenshots below show it all.

On a sidenote: the music in the Win98 game is waaaaaaay superior sounding to that found on the Nocturnal Illusion OST (which supposedly contains the Win98 version). No idea why that is. However it was a great surprise. As far as instrument syth goes: Better than the DS and equal to the Wii.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Jinnai » Sat May 23, 2009 5:31 am

Wow...well at least you see the correct pictures. I get inverted colors on mine. Even with a fresh reinstall. And I'm running 32bit XP.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby umarekawari » Sun May 24, 2009 4:47 pm

I am very VERY interested in this. I wish I could afford to import it... I remember patching the original game, so a remake holds a lot of interest to me.
Would a fan-translation version be possible, given we have the original game?
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby RocK_M » Mon May 25, 2009 10:23 am

Oooh! thankees so much for pointing that out... time to place a Request at Erogeshop fer a copy =3

On a side note.. thats an interesting distortion on XP.. just a question.. so running the actual game on '98 compat mode still brought those errors?
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue May 26, 2009 4:09 am

Jinnai wrote:Wow...well at least you see the correct pictures. I get inverted colors on mine. Even with a fresh reinstall. And I'm running 32bit XP.


Does the music play for you under XP? I'm wondering if the music thing is an XP issue, or something with hardware.



umarekawari wrote:Would a fan-translation version be possible, given we have the original game?


I'd assume so. The game engine is rather similar to the original DOS version. Given the age of the title - and all the software around for that era - a computer wiz could take the old English DOS version and transfer it over. However some stuff would need tweaking around... there's the whole *ahem* editing of Red Hood and Arisa.



RocK_M wrote:Oooh! thankees so much for pointing that out... time to place a Request at Erogeshop fer a copy =3


It was around $40 from them, according to one source. :)



RocK_M wrote:On a side note.. thats an interesting distortion on XP.. just a question.. so running the actual game on '98 compat mode still brought those errors?


Won't run at all, on the 98 compat mode... :(

I can actually get that XP distortion to show on Win98, if I minimize and then maximize the game window... has something to do with the display.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby RocK_M » Tue May 26, 2009 9:47 am

Ah the infamous Red Hood and Arisa scenes... that was really quite annoying actually... at first i wondered why the extended "black scenes" till i came across the answer. It's just really awkward having those edits there...

Would be nice to have an actual re-release w/ this version (hint: JList ppl xD) and w/ the full version w/o the edits xD Anyway no orders till pay day (ie. 2 days @_@).. thanks to this thread this month has been my most expensive month in eroge orders xD

Oh and what exactly goes wrong if you try to run the renewal on XP? =( XP is usually pretty good w/ old 95/98 games and i find a good chunk of my ye olde stuff usually runs fine on 95/98 compat or DOSbox @_@
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue May 26, 2009 10:03 pm

RocK_M wrote:Oh and what exactly goes wrong if you try to run the renewal on XP? =( XP is usually pretty good w/ old 95/98 games and i find a good chunk of my ye olde stuff usually runs fine on 95/98 compat or DOSbox @_@


The more I read the error codes, the more I think it has to do with the way DirectX functions on XP versus Win98. They're not exactly the same: and these differences apply to NI98. Barring that: it might be how the display drivers are interpreting things. I know for a fact, that the music issue is driver related: keeps giving SB16 errors.

I haven't tried running the game on DOS Box...
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Doug » Wed May 27, 2009 7:54 pm

Nargrakhan wrote:Just for comparison purposes...

Either the artist retraced over everything, or the artwork in the 98 version is what he originally drew, before it was downgraded for the limitations of DOS.

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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby DetectiveConan » Thu May 28, 2009 5:51 am

absolutely incredible. *applause*
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Jinnai » Thu May 28, 2009 6:43 am

Nargrakhan wrote:
Jinnai wrote:Wow...well at least you see the correct pictures. I get inverted colors on mine. Even with a fresh reinstall. And I'm running 32bit XP.
Does the music play for you under XP? I'm wondering if the music thing is an XP issue, or something with hardware.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby umarekawari » Thu May 28, 2009 5:20 pm

RocK_M wrote:Ah the infamous Red Hood and Arisa scenes... that was really quite annoying actually... at first i wondered why the extended "black scenes" till i came across the answer. It's just really awkward having those edits there...

Would be nice to have an actual re-release w/ this version (hint: JList ppl xD) and w/ the full version w/o the edits xD Anyway no orders till pay day (ie. 2 days @_@).. thanks to this thread this month has been my most expensive month in eroge orders xD

Oh and what exactly goes wrong if you try to run the renewal on XP? =( XP is usually pretty good w/ old 95/98 games and i find a good chunk of my ye olde stuff usually runs fine on 95/98 compat or DOSbox @_@


You know there's a patch to put those back in the game, right?
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Nargrakhan » Sat May 30, 2009 3:33 am

A technically illegal patch, that makes a technically illegal game. It's technically illegal for you to be posting about it. It's technically illegal for me to post that you technically illegally posted about it. Does that mean we're all going to Hell? :wink: :P
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby papillon » Sat May 30, 2009 12:44 pm

Is there twincest in hell?
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby Jinnai » Sat May 30, 2009 3:46 pm

Nargrakhan wrote:A technically illegal patch, that makes a technically illegal game. It's technically illegal for you to be posting about it. It's technically illegal for me to post that you technically illegally posted about it. Does that mean we're all going to Hell? :wink: :P

Well, its not really technically illegal to post about it on these servers. The patch is technically illegal, At the same time, while it is technically illegal, I am certain everyone has done something technically illegal at one point because so many laws never get repealed and are on the books, technically.
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Re: Nocturnal Illusion

Postby RocK_M » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:18 am

@umarekawari: Yup i know about the patch... while it does put the scenes back the actual text is still messed up and dsynced =/ Add to the fact it has issues with XP xD

Anyhoo.. my copies been shipped and is due fer delivery fer tommorow! =D
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