Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

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Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:56 pm

This topic will contain major spoilers. Consider yourself warned. :)

It would appear that Mirai Nikki is drawing to a close. Only three of the diary holders are alive and Yuki's position to be God is almost certain...

...except for the Yuno factor...

So anyone have an idea of who Yuno is? I've been wrestling with the idea for a bit now.

I suppose the first question to ask, is if Yuno's feelings for Yuki are genuine. From all that I can tell, there's no reason to doubt it. From time to time the story lets us see Yuno's thoughts, and she's wholly devoted to him. However she has been known to repeatedly lie and withhold information from Yuki. Of course it's all in her yandere nature - she's worried about losing Yuki for herself - but it's these very secrets that could tear them apart.

The second question to ask, is if Yuno is a real person. We know Yuno isn't the real Yuno. So when did she replace the real one? Was it years ago or was it when she became a diary holder? This would certainly change the nature of her diary: is it the real Yuno's entries, or is it the fake Yuno's entries? Not to mention the promise. Continuing this line of the thought: who created her? Does Muru Muru have a hand in it? I know the most recent chapter revealed, that Muru Muru knows about the 28th entry for Yuno. Quite odd there... Also the whole retinal eye scan deal and the fact Yuno hid it - it seem obvious Yuno is wholly aware of her nature and uses it her advantage.

It does seem so weird that Yuno's personality, diary, and existence are so perfect for Yuki. She's the perfect partner for him. The perfect lover for him. The perfect weapon against him. Then there's two unanswered questions: What does Happy End mean and why is it that only Yuno has that? Obviously we're lead to believe it means she and Yuki have sex... but that "become one" phrase leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Another unanswered question: exactly what did Deus do to Minene, when he seemed to killed her... but didn't?

Head hurts...
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby le nuage » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:59 pm

Narg... You disapoint me.
You should know the answer... you more than anybody else.

I think the ultimate answer to all the questions about Yuno's identity is : TWINS !!!!
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:52 pm

You're right: it would make total sense. One sister was adopted and the other wasn't. The phone diary belongs to the other twin.

Still... it wouldn't be fair if I didn't point out a few things: if Yuno had a twin, and the other was adopted, why didn't the orphanage say anything to Akise about it? The photo also only showed one Yuno. The other thing that bothers me: why hide it from Yuki? Not like knowing she killed her own twin, would really surprise him, given she killed her parents. Why hide she's really a Gasai?

Twincide makes Narg sad though... so maybe I'm just in denial. :P

What bothers me is that Akise seems to have figured it out... and I don't think he has a twin theory. The answer to his question to Deus seems to be "ammo" he needs to get Yuki to ditch Yuno - which has always been his goal... he wants a Yaoi End. :wink:

More over... Deus appears to like this idea. :shock:
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:30 am

Six Steps to Win a Girl's Heart* as explained by Mirai Nikki Paradox.

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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Mazyrian » Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:48 am

Finally got to read Mirai Nikki. Also been thinking a little in Yuno's identity.
I'm intrigued by the idea that the future diary was from the original Yuno; I was going to say that were that the case, the diary should have disappeared with her death, but then realized that that has never actually happened (I least that I noticed); it was always the diary which got destroyed, or it wasn't shown what happened to the diary. Adding to that that Yuno's diary only records of Yukki, it could have not changed with Yuno(original)'s death.
EXCEPT for the entry that says "Happy End"; it obviously refers to the owner, so our Yuno must be the rightful owner of the diary.
It still remains the doubt if it also means a happy end for Yukki, though.
My guess is that there were two Yunos, twins; maybe they kept that secret from the orphanage, or maybe the original didn't even know about her twin, but eventually she got killed and replaced by the other (sometime before 1 year ago, because the one who did the first dialogue with Yukki was the present Yuno).
Though, if it has been kept secret so long, there must be something else to it, maybe something related with Deus.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:03 am

The mystery behind Akise has been revealed: an artificial construct created by Deus, to keep things in a check and balance. Didn't expect that turn of events at all. Akise is also the 12th dairy holder now, so he has to die for Yuki to become god.

The mystery behind Yuno will evidently be revealed next chapter... and Yuki will probably have to choose between the two thereafter. This plot keeps getting thicker and thicker... but we now understand why Akise was so perfect and utterly devoted to Yuki - now only Yuno is left to unravel. :|

Kinda not liking where this story is going though... Yuno is being painted as the ultimate villain. Why can't the yandere get a happy ending? :cry:

There's a timeloop thing going on, because dead souls can't be resurrected... only restored to a point in time before they died. Evidently the Dairy Games keep happening over and over again. Therefore the Happy End is probably Yuno having sex with Yuki, then Yuki (or Yuno) becomes God after the last dairy holder is killed, then Yuki (or Yuno) resets everything when they learn of the limitation. Akise insinuates that Yuno already knows about the limitation (Yuki, being the dull head that is Yuki, does not).

So yea... Narg is now sad for Yuno, because Akise is going to make her Happy End not come true. :(
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Mazyrian » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:08 am

Yuno's diary hasn't not changed yet though.

Also, there may be another way to circumvent the resurrection limitation; you're the friggin' God of Time and Space, after all.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:18 pm

Ugh... Mirai Nikki on PSP. Billed as a "survival visual novel" or something to that effect. Looks cheaply made. Had this been released before Tokimeki Memorial 4, then it might have been not so bad... but TM4 has really set the bar for visuals and audio in this genre. Plus this thing costs 6090 yen... pretty high priced for something low end looking.

The whole thing appears to take place in an alternate universe, like the Paradox substory.

I think I'll pass and wait until the anime that will inevitably be announced when the manga is completed.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Mazyrian » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:40 pm

Is it known when will the manga end? It's obvious there's not much remaining, but it seems to me there will be more than the few chapters that remain to finish volume 10. Will it end with the 5 chapters of volume 11?
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:17 am

Tankobon 6 was sold June 2008. Tankobon 7 was sold in Nov 2008. Tankobon 8 was sold in May 2009. Tankobon 9 was sold in November 2009.

Tankobon 10 should be around May/June 2010 then. Theoretical Tankobon 11 would be around November/December 2010. So the series should end in May if it's closing fast - 5 more chapters sounds like a good guess, unless of course there's another major plot twist coming up or Sakae Esuno has a life emergency pop up.

Akise doesn't beat around the bush when it comes to Yuno, so I'm sure he'll just tell Yuki up front, what he knows about her. Yuki makes his final decision if Yuno will have her Happy End or not. Then we should get full blown yandere aftermath (be it she wins or lose), and some sort of conclusion.

I read somewhere that 2010 is the end year for the main storyline. Spinoffs and alternate universe tales of course (like Paradox), will probably go on.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby olf_le_fol » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:15 pm

I just learnt that the four first volumes have been released in French... :shock:
Looks like I have to go and buy them~
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:50 pm

olf_le_fol wrote:I just learnt that the four first volumes have been released in French... :shock:
Looks like I have to go and buy them~


\o/

The yandere love that is Yuno, surpasses trivial things such as language and nationality.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby olf_le_fol » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:16 pm

Bought and read volumes #1-4.
Yuno is cute~

OTOH, it looks like volume #3 was censored when Yuno stabs Rei. :evil: I have to go and check.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:51 am

Chapter 49 of Mirai Nikki is out. All hell has broken loose.

Yuno stabbed herself, making Yuki think Akise was trying to kill her and the two of them were been betrayed (which is false). Yuki shoots Hinata. Yuno appears to have gone into full yandere mode... though it's uncertain if her stab is fatal (I doubt it though).

So Yuno is still lying to Yuki, so they'll stay together, and Akise still hasn't revealed what he can do to change the future... next issue I suppose.

What really pisses me off, is that Akise beat Yuno again in a fight. I hate him. HATE! HATE! HATE! Yuno should have won. :evil:




olf_le_fol wrote:Yuno is cute~


Isn't she? :o

Yuki so damn lucky to have a girl like that.


olf_le_fol wrote:OTOH, it looks like volume #3 was censored when...


They never actually showed Rei getting stabbed. I believe it was left blank, to let the reader imagine how it happened.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby olf_le_fol » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:58 pm

Nargrakhan wrote:They never actually showed Rei getting stabbed.
Oh thanks for telling so that I don't have to go and check.
It just felt weird, having a black square instead of the event. Looking forward to volume #5 now!
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:20 pm

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

This about Mirai Nikki Paradox and how it relates to the main line... MASSIVE SPOILER ALERT about Yuno!!!! MASSIVE!!!!

It's not an alternate universe... it's the main line before a cause and effect reboot.

Also Yuno is really Yuno, but NOT the real Yuno from the current universe. The current universe Yuno is the dead Yuno.

The Yuno alive is either an artificial construct created by Murumuru (like how Deus created Akise) for her own devious plans... or Yuno from the previous reboot (i.e. she won the previous Future Diary contest, rebooted to the beginning, and is now trying to make one where Yuki won instead). We're gonna find out which soon enough...

Also had Akise encountered her first, it's possible that he could have been lovers with Tsubaki (the sixth)
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OMG... it all makes so much sense now. This is so awesome! :shock:
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby olf_le_fol » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:00 pm

I want to know more about Yuno but, at the same time, I want to keep it a surprise until the end and only the first five volumes were released in France. :(
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Postby Mazyrian » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:12 pm

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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:43 pm

Mazyrian wrote:With the 11th volume there will come a pilot for the anime


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Fact: Twincest is Best!!
Addendum: Triplets are Better!!!
Corollary: A man's got to know his limitations.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Mazyrian » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:57 am

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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:37 pm

Heh... the BL fan girls are going crazy (spoiler link). Obviously, Yuno ain't one of them. :o

Oh yes... moar yandere mode Yuki.

He's still a naive crybaby idiot though... but he wouldn't be Yuki if not. :P

Once again... major spoilers about Yuno.

Yuno has two future diaries. One is hers: the other is the fake Yuno's. Looking back now, it makes total sense and was foreshadowed: we knew that if you killed a Diary Holder, but left their Diary alone, the Diary still worked. Akise destroyed the fake diary, not realizing this, and Yuno has fatally stabbed Akise.

SHE'S FINALLY BEATEN THAT MARY SUE BASTARD!!!! 8)

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Akise claims that Yuno has been lying to Yuki all this time, and she wants to kill him so she can be god. Next chapter we'll know. So it's almost time for the big reveal... does Yuno love Yuki?

Personally? I'm going to make a prediction and say the answer is: yes. All the inner monologue and her actions up to this point, all indicate that she is obsessed with Yuki and his affection. However I think that like Akise, she might be a "puppet" created by Muru Muru... or being manipulated by her (if she's from a previous time line).

I just can't see her living without Yuki. Turning him into a comatose sex doll? Sure. That's totally within Yuno's character - she did it before, remember? :twisted: But living in a reality without him? It just goes against everything we know about Yuno... then again... maybe that's the point. If Yuno plans to betray Yuki, it has to be a betrayal where Yuki is still "hers" to be loved and protected. I can't see death working into that, unless Yuno if into necrophilia...

Then again... given how she treats her parents, maybe that's fine too.

One more month to go.


I can't wait to see their children. :o

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And no... those pics are taken outta order. That didn't happen. :P

Mazyrian wrote:You missed a few to fill up the last line


Fixed it. :o
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:07 pm

Mazyrian wrote:Is it known when will the manga end? It's obvious there's not much remaining, but it seems to me there will be more than the few chapters that remain to finish volume 10. Will it end with the 5 chapters of volume 11?


Nargrakhan wrote:Tankobon 10 should be around May/June 2010 then. Theoretical Tankobon 11 would be around November/December 2010. So the series should end in May if it's closing fast - 5 more chapters sounds like a good guess, unless of course there's another major plot twist coming up or Sakae Esuno has a life emergency pop up.


Final Tankobon confirmed for September 9, 2010 - which will include the first episode for the forthcoming anime. This series will be ending before August. Going with what we've seen so far... maybe one or two more chapters (assuming the final will be a "double sized" special).
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Sat May 01, 2010 4:26 am

Whoa. Yuno got ahead. :lol:

Theories proven correct: two Yuno's. Alive one is from the previous time line. Third corpse was that of the "real" Yuno. Two diaries. Alive Yuno always says Yuki. Dead Yuno's always said Amano. Worth checking to see if past diaries ever switched between Yuki/Amano (I always remember them saying Yuki though).

Akise is dead. Muru Muru is evil? Not sure... she keeps saying everything will be revealed on the 28th, but has crowned herself the new Goddess of the Universe (Deus is useless now). Evidently she's more powerful than anyone imagined.

Just Yuki and Yuno are left. Will Yuno kill Yuki? Can Yuki kill Yuno? Will either get a happy end? One or two more chapters left I think...

Sad though... to think there could have been Yuno twincest.
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Mazyrian » Sun May 02, 2010 3:51 pm

Maybe there was (they were together at least a little while before the killing) :D

It seems Yuki and Yuno will "become one" on the next chapter. Though how good will it be for Yuki?
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Re: Mirai Nikki (Future Diary)

Postby Nargrakhan » Fri May 07, 2010 11:45 pm

Interesting: author of Mirai Nikki also has another series called Hanako to Guuwa no Teller.

It also deals with the concept of freewill, fate, and being able (or not) to change one's destiny.

Worth looking at, if trying to understand how the creator thinks (and trying to predict how Future Diary might end).

Lacks Yuno lov'n though. :P
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